Assumption of good/bad faith

[kuyan]

When do you think people should trust people to be being honest, when do you think it is reasonable to accuse people of lying?

When do you think people should trust that other people have honest intentions (e.g. are giving money to a campaign fund because they think it would be the best government for the people, rather than because it would be the best government for them at the expense of most others)?

It seems to me that people should err on the trusting side, partly because when someone I know (and I assume it's similar for others) is accused of dishonesty, I feel I have to suspend my trust of them to properly judge the claim the accusation is part of, but once I'm trying to suspend trust of someone I find it hard to avoid rudeness with them.

This is also another reason not to lie; it forces people who find out to accuse you of it.

I think there is a boundry between this and naivetee; we should suppose each person honest, but if the risks are enough we should take precautions in case they're not.

I've had other thoughts on this, but this can do for starters since I'm tired.

[French Frog]

In an ideal world, people would trust each other and people would only say the truth because they'd be used to it.
But since ours is really far from that utopy…
I think it should all just be a case by case basis. You know by experience that you can trust someone, or that you can't. Or you can "smell" fishy behaviours.

[the Gallipoli girl]

It's mostly just gut instinct, kuyan.

When you become friends with someone you generally get an impression of their character - whether they're trustworthy or not, loyal or not, etc. - and this, combined with the circumstances of a situation, will normally lead you to form an instantaneous, un-reasoned-out idea of guilt or innocence that you usually just have to stick with, because you often won't get a black and white answer.
I find that with my friends I'm very trusting, my acquaintances less so, and then I'm distrusting of strangers, mainly because if I trusted them more then they WOULD be my friends, and so forth.

[Bohm]

consistency is important.

[Juicy Orange]

(210210 03:52 AM)the Gallipoli girl Wrote:  It's mostly just gut instinct, kuyan.

When you become friends with someone you generally get an impression of their character - whether they're trustworthy or not, loyal or not, etc. - and this, combined with the circumstances of a situation, will normally lead you to form an instantaneous, un-reasoned-out idea of guilt or innocence that you usually just have to stick with, because you often won't get a black and white answer.
I find that with my friends I'm very trusting, my acquaintances less so, and then I'm distrusting of strangers, mainly because if I trusted them more then they WOULD be my friends, and so forth.

And -that- is where the Asperger's kicks in. I don't get any gut instinct.

[Tollorin]

Juicy Orange Wrote:And -that- is where the Asperger's kicks in. I don't get any gut instinct.

Then again some untrustwhorthy peoples are very good to make peoples feel that they can trust them. Succesfull crook are like that.

[the Gallipoli girl]

Con people, yes. This is the kind of stuff I'm good at avoiding, though - the charming untrustworthy ones normally come across to me as mildly sleazy with their charm, so I avoid them.